I have learned MUCH from living among Muslims in Jordan about faith. First, I learned I am a wimp. In the US, we have turned this right, ‘freedom of faith’ into ‘freedom FROM faith’. People get offended by a bible on a desk, the name “God” on money, the word “Christmas”. So in order not to offend, I shut up about my faith. Imagine my shock when I moved to Jordan and found I have more freedom to talk about God than in the US. The second thing I learned was: if I wasn’t willing to debate at the same level of intensity about my faith as my friends were about theirs, my faith was wimpy.
Third thing I learned: faith is worth fighting for. Some Muslims have taken this way too far, as we all know well, but I have marveled at their willingness to defend their faith and prophet in the light of much scorn. Puts me to shame as I just sigh over the latest attempt to discredit through media and federally funded art exhibits, the One most dear and precious to me, my greatest treasure, Jesus Christ. Muslims helped me find my voice – thanks, guys
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So, be warned. If you don’t want to hear from a passionately devoted follower of Jesus Christ,who is more than a little ticked, it’s time to click.
OK, James Cameron and JFT folks. Thanks for at least acknowledging that He lived. I’ll give you that. But lets go back in history a second. Recorded history before DNA was discovered. History that has 10,000’s of pages of details dispersed long before any conspiracy of religion could contain and codify them to delete parts. Remember who Jesus made the maddest? Who were beside themselves with rage over His preposterous claims to be the great “I AM”, to be sent from the Father, to be the Forgiver of sin, the fulfillment of prophecies for a Messiah since the beginning?
Jewish religious leaders. Jesus messed up their status quo and revealed the sin in their hearts.
They thought killing Him would do the job, but they were just playing into His PLAN. His whole ministry pointed to His death and what it would mean – payment of sin for mankind. He referred to Mary’s anointing of His feet as for His burial. He said “Unless a grain of what falls to the ground and dies, it remains alone, but if it dies, it produces much grain” and “what shall I say: “Father, save Me from this hour?” But for THIS purpose I came to this hour”. He even said He would be crucified, and it was prophesied hundreds of years before. The whole discourse of His last sayings to His beloved and bewildered brethren were to encourage them that His death was the plan and to look for His resurrection. His dear disciples were SO dense, He had to explain it all again AFTER He rose from the dead.
Who tried to put guards at the tomb?The leaders knew He spoke of rising from the dead. They needed a dead body to prove He was NOT who He said He was. They didn’t get it because He was!
If anyone had a vested interest in making sure Jesus was either dead or his death was faked, it was the Jewish leaders. There was no evidence. They were out trying to put down “The Way” and kill Jesus followers from the beginning. Yea, Jesus was raising His family in Jerusalem in peace while the whole Roman countryside was being purged of His followers -so, you’re gonna say He had a slight case of amnesia? I don’t think so. So you all think you have something new, 2000 years later? Think again. The tomb is still empty and Jesus is alive in the hearts of His people…and waiting patiently for people like you to choose His peace and joy. It won’t make you rich, like you hope this ‘documentary’ will, but you will be at peace.
Rant off.
February 28, 2007 at 2:40 pm |
It is always a good thing to have a base and a faith you stick to in hard and good times….
i feel that to each his own as long as they can live together peacefully and in harmony with others. Blessed the faithful, anyway they express their faith.
February 28, 2007 at 3:24 pm |
Summer: peacefully and harmoniously expressed!
February 28, 2007 at 4:54 pm |
Besides all the interesting words that you mentioned above, I am REALLY interested in the science behind all of this.
I would be very appreciative if anyone can explain to me one thing…
They found a tomb! it says … X
How do you know that this X is the historical X we’ve been hearing about?
You do DNA Tests…. ok Great
Now to do DNA Test, you need? A relative … right?
Needless to say that after over 200 generations, the possibility of finding someone of his kin is … really slim to none! ESPECIALLY that there are no documented descendants or preserved tissue, or blood sample from those times.
So this whole shabanga is just a media stunt at best. It will be proven by many to be inconclusive …
February 28, 2007 at 5:09 pm |
Qwaider, ’shabanga’, don’t know what it means, but it sounds great! I too look forward to the science and archaeological data – don’t because of their hypothesis, but the fascinating things that can be learned from such a pinnacle of time. Keep me posted on what you discover.
February 28, 2007 at 7:37 pm |
True Islam instructs Muslims to respect others faiths. We are not God(Allah) to judge others. He is the ONE judging us ALL. The prophet Muhammad also have asked Muslims to protect and be nice to the people of the Book living among us.
This is my motto from the Quraan: 49:13 O Human! Behold, We have created you all out of a male and a female, [15] and have made you into nations and tribes, so that you might come to know one another. [16] Verily, the noblest of you in the sight of God (Allah) is the one who is most deeply conscious of Him. Behold, God is all-knowing, all-aware.
February 28, 2007 at 8:25 pm |
Hi Kerr! Welcome! Great how that verse 15 can be real through blogging! May we all grow more deeply conscious of His work in our lives, to the praise of His glory.
March 1, 2007 at 10:05 am |
I have noticed this before by talking to other Americans. Christianity is hated over there more than here in the Arab world.
Maybe it has to do with us being a minority here where Christianity is forced to take a more sensible and forgiving stand towards people rather than when you have the power to impose your views.
I was wondering yesterday how much this news would affect the foundation of the believe of millions of Christians around the world. I am not sure how much truth is there in this study, even the professour conducting it didn’t claim that this is Jesus grave 100%. I know that when people has strong faith in anything, they would die rather than letting their faith get shaken.
But I also believe that no matter what a human being face in life, he would find a way to adjust, and grow to have a better light of this life as it meant to be for him regardless what truth he might currently believe in.
March 1, 2007 at 10:41 am |
Observer, yes,…Americans are so far removed from Christian teaching, and usually from faithful followers of Christ, that they see it as a faith that just doesn’t want them to have any fun that has been reduced to sound-bites from tele-evangelists. I am the only Christian in my family, and even though I feel I have been faithful to love I offend some just by having my worldview.
Christianity was never designed to be a political power broker. Jesus made it clear He didn’t come to overthrow even the evils of the Roman Empire, but He came to give truth, peace and joy even when oppressed and occupied.
Anyone who’s faith will be shaken by this shows the faith was built on a faulty foundation. These things flare up big in the media, then are usually disproven and forgotten. I fear for those who are observing, on the fence, not having made a decision…it was these kind of people I prayed for during the whole Da Vinci Code deal.
Your last statement was interesting…yes, many people ‘adjust’ but many use false methods of coping and denial to make it work, eventually hurting themselves and others.
March 1, 2007 at 11:26 am |
Kinzi, You are right, christianity never meant to be a political power broker as Jesus intended it to be, but people has a passion for power, and they have misused christianity in the past in order to obtain certain power quests of theirs.
March 1, 2007 at 11:57 am |
Observer, I think people’s tendency to love power is precisely why Jesus came with such a radical message: if you want to be great in God’s Kingdom, learn to be a servant of all. It proves whose heart are completely His, and who uses His name to promote their own.
March 1, 2007 at 4:03 pm |
I came across this online (The Times-Herald) today (http://content.times-herald.com/328166669696899.bsp)
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“Fleming [founder of Explorations in Antiquity in LaGrange] said a true archaeologist goes to a site expecting nothing specific. He said the Jesus’ tomb story is an example of looking at evidence and finding a preconceived “fact.”
When the tomb was found in 1980, it was duly noted by Israeli authorities. There are ossuaries in the tomb marked Miriam/Mary, Joseph and Matthew, as well as the Judas ossuary. Another has an inscription that some have interpreted as “Jesus,” though not all experts who have seen it agree.
“This kind of tomb was used for about 100 years,” Fleming said, and dates from 30 BC-70 AD. During that time period, there would have been about 150,000 women in the Jerusalem area. An examination of names from known ossuaries from the period would indicate about 60,000 of those women would have been named Miriam, the Hebrew name translated as Mary in the Greek New Testament.
The other names found in the tomb were also extremely common, Fleming said. There would have been about 21,000 Josephs, 15,000 Judases, 13,000 Jesuses and 7,500 Matthews during that time period.
While there is “a very slight chance this could be the family of Jesus,” Fleming said many facts point in the other direction. He noted:
* There is considerable information in the New Testament and church tradition about Jesus’ family. There is no mention of a family member named Matthew, but there are no ossuaries for known family members such as James and Salome.
* The New Testament relates that Joseph of Arimathea, a prominent “elder” who was a member of the Jewish Sanhedrin, allowed Jesus’ body to be placed in his newly hewn family tomb. There are no ossuaries in the 1980 site that would appear to be those of Joseph or members of his family.
* There was “a continuity of followers of Jesus” in Jerusalem from the end of his earthly ministry until the first Christian church was built there around 300 AD, Fleming said. He said it is highly unlikely that the site where the Church of the Holy Sepulchre is now located is not the site of Jesus’ tomb. Fleming also noted that excavations show there is a first century tomb beneath the church.
* It was customary in first century Palestine to identify people from the local area by their lineage and people from other areas by their town of origin. The fact that the ossuaries for Jesus and Mary have no geographical identifier indicates they are not likely to be those of the biblical figures, but rather people from Judea. They would have likely been identified as “Jesus of Nazareth” and “Mary of Magdala” had they been buried in Jerusalem.
* Many scholars have been aware of the 1980 tombs, but until the success of “DaVinci” no one seriously suggested the tomb might be that of Jesus of Nazareth. Amos Kloner, the Jewish archaeologist who found the site, did not reach that conclusion. Comment on the tombs is not new. Fleming noted there was a BBC documentary on them in the 1990s.”
March 1, 2007 at 4:09 pm |
Hey, dOOd, thanks so much! I might post this later…
March 7, 2007 at 11:45 pm |
I believe the reaction to Christianity in the USA has arisen from the fear that the radical “Christian” right-wing is trying to force their religion on us all. I don’t consider those people proclaiming their Christianty real Christians. What real Christian can be concerned with amassing wealth or supporting war of any kind? That is not the Jesus I have read. The USA was founded on the priciple that government should not establish a national religion or interfere with the practice of religion. There are many here who are corrupting that. I don’t think most people would object to seeing a Bible or a crucifix. That is a personal thing. People don’t like pushy Christians though. I doubt our Muslim friends would appreciate have pamphlets shoved at them all the time. Did not Jesus say to pray not in crowds but in your private room? One observation. If Jesus ascended to Heaven, why would there be a tomb? Does that mean he left his earthly body behind?
Oh yes. Thank you for commenting on my cartoon. I have been attacked for this by Zionists. My support for the Palestinian cause supposedly means I support the killing of Jewish people. That certainly is not true. I want all of the violence and killing to stop for everyone. Wrong is wrong not matter who does it.
March 8, 2007 at 8:41 am |
David, thanks for taking the time to stop by my blog, and even commenting! I look forward to taking a look at your site.
I can relate to the attack business, I get it from my Evangelical brethren as well just for mentioning the possibility that perhaps Israel might not be treating Palestinians with the utmost in fairness and respect. (whoops, must run and will resume later!)
July 1, 2007 at 9:18 pm |
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I don’t agree with you in 100%, but you covered some good points regarding this topic
July 1, 2007 at 9:24 pm |
Welcome, searches…are you a real person or a keyword-robot? Thanks for reading, and come back anytime!